everything else is stuff people tent to like, even tea parties, medicare, veterans benefits, fbi, border control. a lot of things like that. research on disease. so theoretically you can say, aye, i'm all for the private sector, but in reality you're looking at the same time. supply side trixle down that hurts growth and leads to much larger budget deficits. >> the only thing, jared, i'd counter that with is we don't know if the cuts are going to take place right now. to say it doesn't work, think it's become a derogatory term circle down. but coming out of ronald reagan, it's led to the longest run of the bull market place and the most explosive growth this country has ever known so i think it's disingenuous to sate doesn't work. obviously the term is derogatory. >> i guess i should say i don't mean it derogatory -- actually i do, so i don't want to hide behind that. >> just real quick, having said all that, if you're on the other side of that where you look at stimulus dollars having a multiplier feegt, why on ertd would we ever stop with stimulus dollars? we'd just keep them going for